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Thanks for the feedback, everyone!
Thanks,
-Elaine
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An error occurred while saving the comment Ben commentedOh, and I think Dale's answer also explains what I was getting at - cheers
An error occurred while saving the comment Ben commented@Cory Lucier 'Can you provide a specific usage scenario where an alternative representation is important?'
The current layers implementation in XD is fantastic for modifying objects and working at a detailed, technical level. However, most of us are not working at that level when iterating through design ideas.
In Photoshop, we’re modifying a photo in a fairly detailed and complex way - this is what Photoshop’s layers were built for and they work brilliantly.
Here’s the start of some wire frames I’m working on…
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kitrq99pnen0dje/design.png?dl=0
If I switch to the layers palette, I just see a mirror of the artboards, which isn’t a very efficient use of a click…
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2sunz7guprkgtrv/artboards.png?dl=0
And when clicking into that artboard’s layers, instead of clarity, I see a more confusing representation of the pasteboard (and this wireframe is about to get much more complicated)….
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ohzx8q3z26di0x7/layers.png?dl=0
To make sense of the layers, I’d have to spend time grouping, naming and organising, and then spend more time maintaining that organisation, all while trying to quickly iterate through design ideas.
As an example of InDesign layers, here’s a on way to group stuff
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qaiu1xblaey8n68/indesign-layers.png?dl=0
It offers a different context for managing objects in the document and it’s always organised no matter what happens on the pasteboard.
I’d say one thing though, the InDesign feature that makes it’s layers panel work, is the ability to CMD + CLICK through objects on the pasteboard’s Z axis.
This largely removes the need to fiddle with the layers palette when trying to reach objects under other objects and allows you to use layers to simply group objects.
I thought I put in a request for that feature but can’t see the requests I’ve created, so can’t find it sorry.
Does that help at all? Essentially, Photoshop’s layers have never been conducive to efficient design, they’ve always slowed things down - I haven’t met a designer who ever said it was faster to work that way.
Cheers
Ben
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Not sure about the OP but we'd use this so clients could see design ideas without working with an interactive prototype - more for look and feel if that makes sense. I'm sure there would be other uses for when the full prototype would be overkill.