Layout Grid (Columns, Rows, Margins, Gutter)
Have an ability to display a grid/guides mainly for web design use cases.
As you’ve probably noticed, we’ve delivered Layout Grids in the November release of XD. We’d love specific feedback on Layout Grids as we continue to grow, so I’m closing this feature request. If you have specific additional functionality you’d like to see in the Layout Grid feature, please do file it as a new feature request in the Design feature area!
Winnie Abodo Alinga commented
@raven mentionned guide-sets. It would be wonderful ! I recently sent feedback to sketch devs about this. Being able to treat guides as objects (align/space/move in group etc...) while not being actual objects that are in your layers or that you can see. A control panel of guides that is intangible, yet visible and with which you can interact (snap to guide option for example).
I understand the vision you have to suppress them because sometimes they are in the way. What if they are intangible yet settables ? And you can choose to use them or not. But at least the option is there. XD should be accesible to everyone who wants to use the software. Beginners like experts in UI. And guides are essential. They guide.
Steve Malone commented
Most clients I work for have a grid in their style guide that I reproduce and work to. Usually a combination of margins, columns and gutters. This will be essential for me to adopt XD as a serious prototyping tool.
Jeff Olson commented
Rulers allow me to change the 0x 0y coordinates. Which isn't something I would "need" if the items you mentioned work well.
Kevin Neal commented
I'm not so fussed about rulers, but a grid system is essential
AdminCorey Lucier (Adobe) (Admin, Adobe) commented
One use case for persistent rulers hasn't been talked about much, but for very large designs with many artboards the ruler can help orient the designer as to where they are on the canvas (at a glance) - without having to zoom out then back in. Thoughts on this particular scenario?
James Bellofiore commented
We need a proper Grid system, which neither AI or PS has EVER had. See Sketch, then Copy/Paste it. They have solved it better than anyone else. With the difference that it should indicate when the selected sizes don't add up (like www.gridcalculator.dk).
Gabriel R. commented
@tom the tools you mention would cover most of the drag and drop actions.
But I am used to glancing at the ruler every once in a while to better understand the overall layout and the current location on a deep zoom view.
Rules are also where I go to edit rulers.
I rely heavily on guide guide for photoshop a lot. Something like this i think will be golden.
The grids are very important when I make a webdesign. The way they have made grids and layout in Sketch is great :)
George Hill commented
Always use a grid - a great example of how it could work for me would be like GridGuide for photoshop. allows me to set widths, gutters and margins.
Vincent Koopmans commented
For me personally I never use the actual Rulers, except for draggin' out the guides. So if all the above were to be implemented, The rulers could be left out :)
Markus Hofmann commented
Most of our designs are based on a responsive grid. (In most cases we use Bootstrap for implementation, therefore want to easily be able to design for its grid.) – That's the only requirement, seeing this grid to easily design for it.
I constantly have the Layout view in Sketch turned on. It's indespensible for web design and planning a 12 column grid. The customization settings are just right too. I keep the bars light and very transparent so I only really notice them when I look for them. Examples here: http://bit.ly/1pPFiUX and http://bit.ly/1S7yKds
I do understand your point Tom, and agree.
For those who really needs it, how about dotted grids. Such as we normally see it in sketch sheets. These dotted grids can have hide/show functionality.
Dotted Grids ref : http://sneakpeekit.com/extra/mobile_slider_04.jpg
As for rulers I tend to never use them. Draging out guides is something I used to do in the past, but when I got guideguide and the new guides system in photoshop I'm loving baseline grids and and column grids. And draging out guides can get in the way. So this brings me to one of my idea that I think would be my dream. Guide sets. I want to be able to have as many guide sets as I want for a design. I want to be able to use quick keys to quickly swap between my column grid / baseline grid / my vertical image guides / etc. I don't want the all on the screen at the same time - and I want them gone as quickly as they appear :) Furthermore I would like to be able to copy them between artboards if possible.
Aleksandar Cucukovic commented
When i design websites in Ps, i use Bootstrap grid system, so when i give the files to the developers, they know what width i used, how many columns, what classes to use etc. This feature will be really welcome, if you could include rulers (as in PS) so we can draw the grid, and save it for later use, or some similar option.
Thank you for creating XD, it's AWESOME!
Sylvester Aryee commented
I think for me, it's more of a desire for responsive grid guides than an actual ruler or even guide lines. I don't actually use the ruler myself either.
However, if the 'Responsive Artboard' feature:
is added, then the ruler's purpose might shift from being a design guide to becoming a media query breakpoint indicator.
Much like Chrome's breakpoint developer tool.
As long as I am able to set up a grid quickly and easily (like the GuideGuide extension or the way I can do it in Photoshop CC) i'm happy. I'd want the ability to switch these on and off so I can see a preview of my mocks without the interference of the lines.
I've currently set up 1px rectangles in XD as my workaround which i'll need to remove before sending artwork off.
I like having the rulers there as a guide but only use them if need an extra guideline I didn't set up in my initial grid.
Tom Kruk commented
The fundamental problem with rulers, guides, smart measurement is that they don’t always know the context of what you want to measure.
Rulers (ex Info Panel) often tell you the distance relative to the Top Left or Center. Smart Measurements (purple overlays) often miss the context of what you are trying to measure (see Fig 1).
I've put together a quick PDF document with screenshots demonstrating the UI. Hopefully it will make it clearer. I show the problem (with screen) and a possible solution (2 screens) utilizing both RULER and GUIDE. Please let me know if I can help further.
Keith Rondinelli commented
I almost never use rulers in web design. In Photoshop, they serve mainly to allow me to drag guides onto the canvas. Being I'm usually designing responsive web sites, I almost invariably use something like the GuideGuide extension to set up guides: margins, columns, gutters, etc. A way to do this within XD would be a dream. A grid system is indispensable for modern design, and a way to set up columns that elements can snap to would be great. The ability to save multiple sets of columns would be great, too.